The 15th Ordinary Meeting of the 165th Session of the Literific took place on the 20th of February in the Senate Room.
Jess Liningstone, David Cather and Professor David Glass supported the motion. Livingstone explained that in a situation where you can’t determine if or if not a God exists, it comes down to faith to make you decide. Cather determined that the world is far too finely balanced to not have something intervene. Prof. Glass concluded by telling the House that the universe would make more sense if a god did exist. He said that without religion and belief, many scientists would not have discovered what we have today as they wouldn’t have gone looking for God.
Ciaran Gallagher, Nick Millington and Paddy Mallon. C’p’n Gallagher focused on not offending people and accepted that it is a personal issue but that there is insufficient evidence to prove a god’s existence. Mr Millington said it was important for the House to understand his bias as an atheist and so while you can’t say there is a god or that there isn’t, you also can’t say there’s a mystical teapot floating about the universe. Mallon decided to pull a ‘Jonny Gallagher’ as it is so called within the Society (See 1967 Abortion Act Minutes) and said he didn’t believe there was ‘a’ God, but instead a load of them. Batman, something Irish Mythology reduces gods to fairies, to pixies.
We then went to the Floor. Both sides summarised, sand the motion then went to a vote and was defeated with 10 abstentions, 18 ayes and 26 nays.
The 12th Ordinary meeting of the 165th session of the Literific took place on the 19th of December in the Elmwood Hall. It began with an opening address from the Secretary of State, Theresa Villiers. She talked about the importance of a united community – her entire speech is here as we probably could not do it justice.
Derek Crosby, Dr Dominic Bryan, Ciaran Gallagher and Tina McKenzie spoke in proposition of the motion. Crosby argued that the Union Jack and tricolour both cause divides in the community and suggest there is no Northern Ireland. Dr Bryan said that while dealing with the past was more important, a new flag would do little harm. Mr Gallagher decided that a flag would be a good foundation for progress, for harmony and peace. He commented that a flag is easier to change than the population. Tina McKenzie, NI21, said that the people of Northern Ireland are united in character and that the real problem is Stormont. She told the House that politicians wish to promote segregation.
Nigel Macauley, Conor Conneally, Trevor Ringland and Andrew Carruthers all spoke for the oposition. Macauley countered the idea that leadership needed to bring both communities together through a flag does not exist, that both communities are separated at birth and trying to force them together would cause riots. Conneally said that flags are boring and if both flags cannot be flown with both communities respecting each other then there should be none. Mr Ringland stated that instead of a flag, he asked that real change be made to tackle sectarianism. Carruthers agreed that time should not be wasted on a flag but to instead spend time to make real change, that a flag would just distract from the real problems.
The debate then went to the floor.
We then went to a vote, there were 34 nays, 4 abstentions and the motion passed with 38 ayes.